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DNR and MDA to Hold Town Hall Meeting in CWD Surveillance Zone in Kent County Contact: Mary Dettloff (DNR) or Bridget Patrick (MDA) 517-335-3014 or 517-241-2669
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September 5, 2008
The Michigan departments of Natural Resources (DNR) and Agriculture (MDA) will hold a town hall meeting on Tuesday, Sept. 9, at the West Walker Sportman's Club in Grand Rapids to answer questions pertaining to Chronic Wasting Disease. The club is located at 0-599 Leonard St. NW in Grand Rapids. The meeting will start at 6:30 p.m. and conclude at 8:30 p.m.
"This meeting is intended to give hunters and the general public a chance to have their questions answered about CWD and special hunting regulations for Kent County this fall," said Dr. Steve Schmitt, DNR wildlife veterinarian. "We want to provide as much information as we can to the citizens of Kent County about the disease and its impact on deer farming and hunting."
Dr. Schmitt and Dr. Steve Halstead, the state veterinarian from MDA, give brief presentations, and then the meeting will be opened up for questions. Ann Nieuwenhuis, a Michigan State University Extension emergency planning specialist, will moderate the meeting.
More information about the West Walker Sportsman's Club in Grand Rapids is available on the club's Web site at www.wwsc.org under the "Club Info" menu.
The DNR and MDA announced the state's first case of CWD in a three-year old doe at a private deer breeding facility in Kent County on Aug. 25. CWD is a fatal neurological disease that affects deer, elk and moose. Most cases of the disease have been in western states, but in the past several years, it has spread to Midwestern and eastern states. Infected animals display abnormal behaviors, loss of bodily functions and a progressive weight loss. Current evidence suggests the disease is transmitted through infectious, self-multiplying proteins (prions). Prions are normal cell proteins whose shape has been transformed, causing CWD. The disease is transmitted by exposure to saliva of infected animals. Susceptible animals can also acquire CWD by eating feces from an infected animal, or soil contaminated by them. Once contaminated, soil can remain a source of infection for many years, making CWD a particularly difficult disease to manage.
DNR officials remind citizens that, to date, there is no evidence that CWD poses a risk to humans, nor has there been verified evidence that the disease can be transmitted to humans. More information about CWD is available on the State of Michigan's Emerging Diseases Web site at www.michigan.gov/chronicwastingdisease.

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The meeting that was held today was the House Tourism, Outdoor Recreation and Natural Resources committee chaired by Rep. Sheltrown. This is a meeting that occurs almost every Tuesday when the House is in session. The purpose of the meeting today was to provide the DNR an opportunity to present its CWD plan, to provide legislators an opportunity to ask the DNR questions about the plan and to provide the public an opportunity to comment on the plan to their elected representatives. The meeting began at 10:30 a.m. and lasted until 1:17 p.m. It was very well attended; standing room only.

It was not the purpose of the meeting to make a decision on any amendment to the CWD order. That will be done by the NRC on Thursday. Under Proposal G, the NRC has this authority although the Legislature has the legal authority to trump any decison by the NRC. In terms of the policy hierarchy, it goes something like this with #1 being at the top:

1. Current electorate (voters) collectively of Michigan deriving their rights from the Michigan Constitution "all political power is inherent in the people".
2. Michigan Legislature (directly elected by voters) & statuatory law it adopts.
3. Natural Resources Commission (appointed by the Governor, confirmed by Legislature) & conservation orders it adopts.
4. DNR Director (hired by the Natural Resoures Commission) & director's orders she signs.
5. DNR staff recommendations (hired by the DNR Director and her subordinates).

Proposal G concerns level #3 on that list. The sound scientific management under Proposal G isn't just based on biology and ecology but also on economics and social impact. This is why staff recommendations are often altered by the NRC and the DNR does not typically consider economics or social impact heavily in its recommendations.

Also, please note that the CWD deer in Kent Co. was born and lived its entire life at that one operation with 100+ other deer, all of which tested negetive for CWD. The DNR and MDA does not know the source of the prions that caused CWD in the one animal. It is know that in some cases CWD can spontaneously occur in an animal.

My Recent Posts · 09/09/08

NOTICE OF SCHEDULED MEETING
JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING

Senate Committees: AGRICULTURE, and
HUNTING, FISHING & OUTDOOR RECREATION

DATE: Wednesday, September 10, 2008

TIME: 1:00 p.m.

PLACE: Senate Hearing Room, Ground Floor, Boji Tower, 124 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933

PHONE: Jeff Cobb, Committee Clerk (517) 373-1635
Joy Brewer, Committee Clerk (517) 373-1854
Sen. Gerald Van Woerkom, Chair
Sen. Jim Barcia, Chair
AGENDA
PRESENTATION ON CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE
GIVEN BY THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES

And any other business to come properly before the committee.

Individuals who wish to bring written testimony need to supply a minimum of twenty copies for distribution.

In the spirit of compliance with the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA), individuals with a disability should feel free to contact the Office of the Secretary of the Senate by phone [(517) 373-2400] or by TDD [(517) 373-0543] if requesting special services to effectively participate in the meeting.

For informational purposes only, schedule committee meetings available at www.legislature.mi.gov.

Date: 9/10/08

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State NRC takes no action on bait ban
Friday, September 12, 2008
Bay City Times

Times Staff

The Michigan Natural Resources Commission took no action Thursday to modify a ban on baiting or feeding deer in the Lower Peninsula, State Rep. Joel Sheltrown said today.

Sheltrown, D-West Branch, who attended the commission's meeting in Lansing, said he hoped to see the ban changed heading into this hunting season.
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But the commission affirmed the Michigan Department of Natural Resources' order prohibiting Lower Peninsula baiting and feeding after a deer at a private game farm in Kent County contracted chronic wasting disease.

State officials aren't sure how the deer came down with the persistent, fatal condition. The bait ban is designed to reduce the chance of the disease's spread.

Sheltrown said he feels the ban came too late in the year and will hurt farmers growing feed for deer bait and have a big impact on hunting

season.

''The obvious economic damage that's going to happen far outweighs delaying the ban for three months,'' he said

My Recent Posts · 09/12/08

This is what I don't get what does a HIGH FENCE deer have to do with our FREE ROAMING DEER??????

My Recent Posts · 09/12/08

Your right about that RUTNSTRUT, it has nothing to do with the free range wild deer in MI. The only connection I might see is if this deer's urine was used to make any "Doe In Heat" scents, In which case all that scent should be destroyed just like the penned deer was!

My Recent Posts · 09/13/08

I didn't even think about that brown.This is what I thought might happen is that a FREE ROAMING deer might come up to the fence and lick another deer inside the fence.Then on the other hand they tested all the deer there and they only found the one and it has been terminated.I just don't understand it.I am not a real big bait hunter but there are alot of guys out there that are and depend on it to have a good hunt not to mention that all the farmers that make a living of selling bait are out some serious coin.

My Recent Posts · 09/13/08

This baiting issue has been the DNR agenda since 2002. It is obvious they have an agenda and what are they going to do when the state is over run with deer? This CWD thing is nothing new, they just have better testing and test for it now, just like TB scare. I don't need to bait to kill a deer, but I also don't believe the DNR handles our money honestly either.

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plothunter	DNR HOLD MEETING TODAY REGARDING CWD & BAITING		Lead	[-]
Posts: 104 09/09/08 11:25	Tags : None DNR and MDA to Hold Town Hall Meeting in CWD Surveillance Zone in Kent County Contact: Mary Dettloff (DNR) or Bridget Patrick (MDA) 517-335-3014 or 517-241-2669 Agency: No Worker Left Behind September 5, 2008 The Michigan departments of Natural Resources (DNR) and Agriculture (MDA) will hold a town hall meeting on Tuesday, Sept. 9, at the West Walker Sportman's Club in Grand Rapids to answer questions pertaining to Chronic Wasting Disease. The club is located at 0-599 Leonard St. NW in Grand Rapids. The meeting will start at 6:30 p.m. and conclude at 8:30 p.m. "This meeting is intended to give hunters and the general public a chance to have their questions answered about CWD and special hunting regulations for Kent County this fall," said Dr. Steve Schmitt, DNR wildlife veterinarian. "We want to provide as much information as we can to the citizens of Kent County about the disease and its impact on deer farming and hunting." Dr. Schmitt and Dr. Steve Halstead, the state veterinarian from MDA, give brief presentations, and then the meeting will be opened up for questions. Ann Nieuwenhuis, a Michigan State University Extension emergency planning specialist, will moderate the meeting. More information about the West Walker Sportsman's Club in Grand Rapids is available on the club's Web site at www.wwsc.org under the "Club Info" menu. The DNR and MDA announced the state's first case of CWD in a three-year old doe at a private deer breeding facility in Kent County on Aug. 25. CWD is a fatal neurological disease that affects deer, elk and moose. Most cases of the disease have been in western states, but in the past several years, it has spread to Midwestern and eastern states. Infected animals display abnormal behaviors, loss of bodily functions and a progressive weight loss. Current evidence suggests the disease is transmitted through infectious, self-multiplying proteins (prions). Prions are normal cell proteins whose shape has been transformed, causing CWD. The disease is transmitted by exposure to saliva of infected animals. Susceptible animals can also acquire CWD by eating feces from an infected animal, or soil contaminated by them. Once contaminated, soil can remain a source of infection for many years, making CWD a particularly difficult disease to manage. DNR officials remind citizens that, to date, there is no evidence that CWD poses a risk to humans, nor has there been verified evidence that the disease can be transmitted to humans. More information about CWD is available on the State of Michigan's Emerging Diseases Web site at www.michigan.gov/chronicwastingdisease. Last Edited By: plothunter 09/09/08 4:35. Edited 3 times.
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Posts: 104 09/09/08 4:34	The meeting that was held today was the House Tourism, Outdoor Recreation and Natural Resources committee chaired by Rep. Sheltrown. This is a meeting that occurs almost every Tuesday when the House is in session. The purpose of the meeting today was to provide the DNR an opportunity to present its CWD plan, to provide legislators an opportunity to ask the DNR questions about the plan and to provide the public an opportunity to comment on the plan to their elected representatives. The meeting began at 10:30 a.m. and lasted until 1:17 p.m. It was very well attended; standing room only. It was not the purpose of the meeting to make a decision on any amendment to the CWD order. That will be done by the NRC on Thursday. Under Proposal G, the NRC has this authority although the Legislature has the legal authority to trump any decison by the NRC. In terms of the policy hierarchy, it goes something like this with #1 being at the top: 1. Current electorate (voters) collectively of Michigan deriving their rights from the Michigan Constitution "all political power is inherent in the people". 2. Michigan Legislature (directly elected by voters) & statuatory law it adopts. 3. Natural Resources Commission (appointed by the Governor, confirmed by Legislature) & conservation orders it adopts. 4. DNR Director (hired by the Natural Resoures Commission) & director's orders she signs. 5. DNR staff recommendations (hired by the DNR Director and her subordinates). Proposal G concerns level #3 on that list. The sound scientific management under Proposal G isn't just based on biology and ecology but also on economics and social impact. This is why staff recommendations are often altered by the NRC and the DNR does not typically consider economics or social impact heavily in its recommendations. Also, please note that the CWD deer in Kent Co. was born and lived its entire life at that one operation with 100+ other deer, all of which tested negetive for CWD. The DNR and MDA does not know the source of the prions that caused CWD in the one animal. It is know that in some cases CWD can spontaneously occur in an animal.
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Posts: 104 09/09/08 5:23	NOTICE OF SCHEDULED MEETING JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING Senate Committees: AGRICULTURE, and HUNTING, FISHING & OUTDOOR RECREATION DATE: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 TIME: 1:00 p.m. PLACE: Senate Hearing Room, Ground Floor, Boji Tower, 124 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933 PHONE: Jeff Cobb, Committee Clerk (517) 373-1635 Joy Brewer, Committee Clerk (517) 373-1854 Sen. Gerald Van Woerkom, Chair Sen. Jim Barcia, Chair AGENDA PRESENTATION ON CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE GIVEN BY THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES And any other business to come properly before the committee. Individuals who wish to bring written testimony need to supply a minimum of twenty copies for distribution. In the spirit of compliance with the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA), individuals with a disability should feel free to contact the Office of the Secretary of the Senate by phone [(517) 373-2400] or by TDD [(517) 373-0543] if requesting special services to effectively participate in the meeting. For informational purposes only, schedule committee meetings available at www.legislature.mi.gov. Date: 9/10/08
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Posts: 113 09/12/08 5:00	State NRC takes no action on bait ban Friday, September 12, 2008 Bay City Times Times Staff The Michigan Natural Resources Commission took no action Thursday to modify a ban on baiting or feeding deer in the Lower Peninsula, State Rep. Joel Sheltrown said today. Sheltrown, D-West Branch, who attended the commission's meeting in Lansing, said he hoped to see the ban changed heading into this hunting season. Advertisement But the commission affirmed the Michigan Department of Natural Resources' order prohibiting Lower Peninsula baiting and feeding after a deer at a private game farm in Kent County contracted chronic wasting disease. State officials aren't sure how the deer came down with the persistent, fatal condition. The bait ban is designed to reduce the chance of the disease's spread. Sheltrown said he feels the ban came too late in the year and will hurt farmers growing feed for deer bait and have a big impact on hunting season. ''The obvious economic damage that's going to happen far outweighs delaying the ban for three months,'' he said
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Posts: 236 09/12/08 6:44 Moderator	This is what I don't get what does a HIGH FENCE deer have to do with our FREE ROAMING DEER??????
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Posts: 518 09/12/08 9:40	Your right about that RUTNSTRUT, it has nothing to do with the free range wild deer in MI. The only connection I might see is if this deer's urine was used to make any "Doe In Heat" scents, In which case all that scent should be destroyed just like the penned deer was! Your Signature ... That's a shooter!!
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Posts: 236 09/13/08 7:25 Moderator	I didn't even think about that brown.This is what I thought might happen is that a FREE ROAMING deer might come up to the fence and lick another deer inside the fence.Then on the other hand they tested all the deer there and they only found the one and it has been terminated.I just don't understand it.I am not a real big bait hunter but there are alot of guys out there that are and depend on it to have a good hunt not to mention that all the farmers that make a living of selling bait are out some serious coin.
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Posts: 209 09/13/08 8:44	This baiting issue has been the DNR agenda since 2002. It is obvious they have an agenda and what are they going to do when the state is over run with deer? This CWD thing is nothing new, they just have better testing and test for it now, just like TB scare. I don't need to bait to kill a deer, but I also don't believe the DNR handles our money honestly either.
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